Legislature(2005 - 2006)BELTZ 211

04/07/2005 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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03:42:17 PM Start
03:42:53 PM SB154
04:19:23 PM Adjourn
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*+ SB 154 JUVENILE DELINQUENCY PROCEEDINGS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 154(STA) Out of Committee
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            SB 154- JUVENILE DELINQUENCY PROCEEDINGS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:42:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEATHER  BRAKES, Staff to  Senator Gene  Therriault, sponsor,                                                               
told members  SB 154 addresses  two concerns related  to Alaska's                                                               
juvenile justice system. First, SB  154 would improve the state's                                                               
ability  to   hold  juvenile  offenders  accountable   for  their                                                               
conduct;  second,  it  would  increase   the  efficiency  of  the                                                               
juvenile justice  system by allowing  telephonic hearings  when a                                                               
personal appearance is unnecessary for a fair determination.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRAKES said SB 154 corrects  a serious gap in Alaska statute.                                                               
Currently, when a  person under 18 commits a  delinquent act, the                                                               
juvenile justice  system is  responsible for  the matter.  When a                                                               
person  over  18  commits  a crime,  the  adult  criminal  system                                                               
prosecutes. Recent  court decisions  have determined that  when a                                                               
youth commits a  delinquent act that either  goes undiscovered or                                                               
for  which proceedings  are not  filed until  after the  offender                                                               
reaches the age of 18, neither  the adult nor the juvenile system                                                               
has clear jurisdiction under Alaska statute.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:44:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRAKES  referred to  information  in  members' packets  that                                                               
shows the statutory  language the court has found  to be unclear.                                                               
She said  SB 154 fills  the jurisdictional gap by  providing that                                                               
delinquent  minor  statutes  apply  to a  person  who  commits  a                                                               
violation of  criminal law of  the state or a  municipality while                                                               
under  18 if  the period  of limitation  under AS  12.10 has  not                                                               
expired. AS 12.10  lays out the different crimes  and the statute                                                               
of limitations under which charges can be brought.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SB  154  also amends  Alaska's  delinquency  rules to  allow  for                                                               
telephonic  participation   by  juvenile  offenders   in  certain                                                               
proceedings.  It would  still require  juvenile  offenders to  be                                                               
present   for   all   hearings  when   necessary   for   a   fair                                                               
determination. The  change would apply to  court appearances such                                                               
as status  hearings, where  telephonic participation  is adequate                                                               
for a fair decision. This would avoid expensive travel costs.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:45:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  informed members  the court's  written decision                                                               
says the court  cannot correct the problem;  the legislature must                                                               
clarify the statutory language.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:46:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PATTY  WARE, Director  of the  Division of  Juvenile Justice,                                                               
Department of Health  and Social Services (DHSS),  said she would                                                               
give  a brief  summary of  the legislation  and Mr.  Newman would                                                               
discuss some sample cases to illustrate the problem.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. WARE  explained that a  few cases  in the Kenai  area brought                                                               
the  seriousness  of  the  situation   to  DHSS's  attention  and                                                               
prompted it  to look  at a  statutory change.  She said  the most                                                               
important parts  of the  bill are  Sections 1 and  7. In  the two                                                               
legal cases  in members' packets,  the court determined  DHSS had                                                               
no legal jurisdiction  because the offenses were  alleged to have                                                               
been committed  while the minor  was still a juvenile.  Section 1                                                               
creates  a  new section  of  statute  that  says DHSS  has  legal                                                               
authority when these types of cases occur.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. WARE  said Section 7 of  the bill closes the  other loophole.                                                               
It allows  DHSS to adjudicate  these cases  in court in  the same                                                               
manner that it  does for juvenile offenders under the  age of 18.                                                               
She indicated  that Section  2 is  primarily cleanup  language to                                                               
incorporate this  special population. For example,  many sections                                                               
of  Title 47  deal  with  minors and  parents,  such as  parental                                                               
rights to  receive notice.  None of  those sections  are relevant                                                               
when an offender is over 18.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:49:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT asked  if those  sections are  new sections  of                                                               
statute.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WARE  affirmed  they  are. She  explained  that  Sections  3                                                               
through  6 make  changes to  the dual  sentencing provisions  and                                                               
delinquency statutes. Under current law,  if a person 16 or older                                                               
commits  a serious  offense,  the district  attorney  can file  a                                                               
petition requesting  both a juvenile  and adult sentence.  If the                                                               
person  does  not  follow  through with  the  conditions  of  the                                                               
juvenile sentence, the adult sentence  would be imposed. Sections                                                               
3  through 6  provide  tools for  specific  circumstances when  a                                                               
person  is  perhaps   19  or  20  and   the  juvenile  sentencing                                                               
provisions might be effective.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TONY  NEWMAN, Program Officer, Division  of Juvenile Justice,                                                               
DHSS, referred to a chart and  told members when a youth under 18                                                               
commits  almost any  offense, he  or she  is subject  to juvenile                                                               
justice jurisdiction. If a person is  close to age 18 and commits                                                               
an offense,  the judge  can commit  the offender  to a  period of                                                               
probation  or treatment  at  a  youth facility  until  he or  she                                                               
reaches 20 years of age, but the offender would have to consent.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN said a  juvenile can be dealt with as  an adult in the                                                               
Alaska Court  System in a  few ways. The Legislature  has decided                                                               
that  16 and  17  year  olds who  commit  specific offenses  will                                                               
automatically be waived  into the adult system.  Second, DHSS can                                                               
get a discretionary waiver if  it can demonstrate that a juvenile                                                               
is not amenable to treatment. The  third method is to impose dual                                                               
sentencing  provisions -  a  sentence in  both  the juvenile  and                                                               
adult systems for certain serious  offenses. If the offender does                                                               
not  successfully  comply  with  the conditions  imposed  by  the                                                               
juvenile system, the adult sentence is applied.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN said  the court  has advised  that if  a 15  year old                                                               
commits  murder but  is not  arrested until  age 19,  no one  has                                                               
jurisdiction of  the case. If the  murder was committed at  16 or                                                               
17,  the auto-waiver  would kick  in and  adult court  would have                                                               
jurisdiction. However, if a 16 or  17 year old committed a lesser                                                               
offense   that  was   not  discovered   for  several   years,  no                                                               
jurisdiction would  apply. Under this bill,  the juvenile justice                                                               
staff could  take a  petition forward and  get adjudication  or a                                                               
discretionary waiver  if the offender  was no longer  amenable to                                                               
treatment as a juvenile.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
If a  17-year-old juvenile committed  sexual abuse of a  minor in                                                               
the second degree  and was not arrested until age  18, DHSS could                                                               
petition  the  offense   to  the  court.  If   adjudicated  as  a                                                               
delinquent, at  DHSS's discretion  that person could  be remanded                                                               
to  probation supervision,  a juvenile  facility or  to an  adult                                                               
correctional facility. DHSS could also request dual sentencing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:58:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT asked if this  problem has just recently come to                                                               
light.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. WARE  said although  these cases are  uncommon and  DHSS does                                                               
not  anticipate  many,  the  two Kenai  cases  prompted  DHSS  to                                                               
address the  situation and fix the  "hole" in the statute.  It is                                                               
not  just  for  serious  offenses;  it's  to  make  these  people                                                               
accountable and provide restitution when appropriate.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. WARE referenced page 6, section  9 and said she would like to                                                               
speak to the proposal for  telephonic hearings. Delinquency rules                                                               
require that juveniles  have the right to appear in  person for a                                                               
range  of hearings.  For certain  types of  hearings, DHSS  could                                                               
request   permission  from   the  court   for  the   juvenile  to                                                               
participate telephonically or  via video. DHSS would  like to add                                                               
arraignment  hearings  to  the  new  language  on  line  17.  She                                                               
explained that  detention reviews  and status hearings  are short                                                               
and transporting juveniles to court can be costly.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT asked  if this  language  mirrors the  language                                                               
that allows telephonic appearances in the adult system.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. WARE deferred to Ms.  Carpeneti but said the McLaughlin Youth                                                               
Center  had technology  that allowed  juveniles to  appear via  a                                                               
video link but that equipment  quit working several years ago and                                                               
has not been fixed. She said  she does not know how this language                                                               
compares to what is allowed in the adult system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:04:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS WAGONER  said he  is  appalled to  hear that  the                                                               
equipment at McLaughlin has not been fixed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WARE  said  she  didn't  have  the  details  regarding  what                                                               
happened  but  the equipment  broke  many  years  ago and  it  is                                                               
possible the equipment is now  outdated. She noted when the video                                                               
link was initiated 8-10 years  ago, there was a positive response                                                               
from judges in Anchorage.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WAGONER said  he had  a similar  discussion with  Portia                                                               
Parker of the  Department of Corrections about  prisoners using a                                                               
video link instead of transporting them to courtrooms.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:05:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT called Ms. Carpeneti forward to testify.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:06:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANNE CARPENETI, Assistant Attorney  General, said she did not                                                               
draft the bill  but the Department of Law (DOL)  supports it. She                                                               
offered to answer questions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT   asked  why  the  Governor   didn't  introduce                                                               
legislation to address this concern.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI said  DOL did  not draft  a bill  because of  time                                                               
constraints.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:07:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT took teleconference testimony.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:07:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOB FRALEY,  Superintendent of the Nome  Youth Facility, told                                                               
members  he was  at the  McLaughlin Youth  Center when  the video                                                               
link was used  for uncontested hearings. That  equipment was very                                                               
effective and saved transportation  and staff time. The breakdown                                                               
was not in  the equipment but in the line  between McLaughlin and                                                               
the courthouse and the cost of replacement was prohibitive.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He said  each year  about 50 youths  are transported  to Kotzebue                                                               
from   Nome  for   court  hearings.   Besides   the  expense   of                                                               
transporting a juvenile  and staff member, the  travel time takes                                                               
all day for a  5 to 10 minute hearing and  removes a staff person                                                               
from an already limited staff situation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:10:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked Ms. Carpeneti  about Ms.  Ware's proposed                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI suggested the following language:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     On page 4, line 11, following "custody," insert "or                                                                        
     supervision"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     On page 4, line 12, following "under" insert "AS                                                                           
     47.12.120(b) or"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     On page 4, line 13, delete "or placement" and insert ",                                                                    
     placement, or supervision"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:12:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked what  the upshot  of those  changes would                                                               
be.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:13:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  NEWMAN  said  adding   custody  or  supervision  encompasses                                                               
juveniles in  custody or under  the division's  supervision, such                                                               
as   those  on   probation.   The  statutory   reference  to   AS                                                               
47.12.120(b)  encompasses  individuals  who are  adjudicated  and                                                               
either  sentenced  to probation  or  to  a  term in  a  detention                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:14:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  moved  to   adopt  Ms.  Carpeneti's  suggested                                                               
language  as  a  conceptual   amendment  [Amendment  1].  Without                                                               
objection, the motion carried.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT asked if DHSS  wanted to add arraignments to the                                                               
list   of   hearings   that  juveniles   could   participate   in                                                               
telephonically (page 6, line 17).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI suggested placing  the word "arraignment" after the                                                               
word "for" on page 6, line 17.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked if  arraignments were  intentionally left                                                               
out of the statute.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN explained that arraignments  are often uncontested and                                                               
brief.  DHSS staff  thought  offenders  could easily  participate                                                               
telephonically.  On  the  other  hand,   an  arraignment  is  the                                                               
individual's first  dealing with the  justice system so  it could                                                               
be critical.  This amendment  would give  DHSS the  discretion to                                                               
decide.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT asked if no one  has to appear if an arraignment                                                               
is uncontested.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. NEWMAN said that is correct.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  asked  if not  contesting  is  different  than                                                               
waiving an appearance.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI said they are a  bit different. A person is advised                                                               
of his  or her rights at  an arraignment. A person  can waive his                                                               
or her right  to participate in person and  choose to participate                                                               
telephonically.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:16:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT motioned to adopt  conceptual Amendment 2. There                                                               
being no  objection, it  was so  ordered. He  asked if  any other                                                               
areas of the bill needed change.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
4:16:56 PM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
MS.  CARPENETI said  on page  6, line  10, the  statute reference                                                           
should be  AS 47.14.010  - 47.14.050 rather  than AS  47.14.010 -                                                               
47.14.130.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  moved that  citation  change  as Amendment  3.                                                               
There being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:18:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT noted the bill  has a Senate Judiciary Committee                                                               
referral and  asked members if  they were comfortable  moving the                                                               
bill out of committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS said she had no objection to moving the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER concurred.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:18:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  indicated the bill  has three fiscal  notes and                                                               
said he would  ask the Senate Judiciary chair to  have the public                                                               
defender  appear to  justify  the  agency's indeterminate  fiscal                                                               
note  because  it  might  trigger   a  Senate  Finance  Committee                                                               
referral.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:19:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WAGONER  motioned to report  CSSB 154(STA) and  its three                                                               
attached   fiscal   notes    from   committee   with   individual                                                               
recommendations. There being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                  

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